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The Wall

Bruce Springsteen
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[2003]
Lyrics and Music by Bruce Springsteen
Testo e musica di Bruce Springsteen
Prima incisione in studio in "High Hopes" del 2014.

Vietnam war memorial


"Canzone inedita presentata da Springsteen il 19 febbraio scorso ad una serata benefica a Somerville e postata da Diego "Dievel" sulla ML "Bielle". Il "Muro" cui si riferisce la canzone è il monumento ai caduti nel Vietnam, la "Black stone" che si trova a Washington." (Commento originale alla racconta primitiva delle CCG)

Il "19 febbraio scorso" è ovviamente il 19 febbraio 2003. Sul "Black Stone" (Memorial Wall) di Washington si veda anche 50,000 Names di George Jones. [CCG/AWS Staff]


”The Wall” è una cosa che ho suonato dal vivo qualche volta e mi è molto cara. Il titolo e l'idea sono di Joe Grushecky, poi la canzone si è sviluppata dopo che io e Patti abbiamo visitato il memoriale per i veterani del Vietnam a Washingron.

È ispirata ai miei ricordi di Walter Cichon. Walter era uno dei pioneri della scena rock del New Jersey, che insieme al fratello Ray (uno dei miei primi mentori di chitarra) aveva un gruppo che si chiamava "The Motifs". I Motifs erano una rock band locale che era sempre una spanna sopra le altre. Grezzi, sexy e ribelli, erano gli eroi che tutti sognavamo di essere. Ma erano eroi che potevi toccare, con cui potevi parlare, e a cui potevi fare ogni genere di domanda musicale. Erano fighissimi, ma sempre disponibili, sono stati un ispirazione per me e per molti altri giovani musicisti del New Jersey centrale.

Anche se il mio personaggio in "The Wall" è un marine, in realtà Walter si è arruolato nell'esercito, compagnia A, terzo battaglione, ottava fanteria. Walter è morto in un azione in Vietnam (ufficialmente disperso) nel marzo 1968. Nella mia immaginazione mi capita ancora abbastanza spesso di vederlo esibirsi, rivedo il modo in cui stava sul palco, come si vestiva, come teneva il tamburello, il look casual ma figo, l'assoluta libertà.

L'uomo che con i suoi modo di porsi, con il modo di camminare, di camminare diceva: "Puoi sfidare tutto questo, tutto quello che c'è qui, tutto quello che ti hanno insegnato, a temere, ad amare, e comunque ti andrà bene". È stata una perdita grandissima per noi, per i suoi cari e per la scena musicale locale. Ancora oggi mi manca.

Bruce Springsteen
Cigarettes and a bottle of beer
This poem I wrote for you
This black stone and these hard tears
Are all I've got left now of you
I remember you in your Marine uniform laughing
Laughing that you're shipping out probably
I read Robert McNamara says he's sorry

You and your boots and black t-shirt
Ah Billy you looked so bad
Ya, you and your rock and roll band
Was the best thing this shit town ever had
Now the man who put you here
He feeds his family in rich dining halls
And apology and forgiveness have no place here at all
At the wall

I'm sorry I missed you last year
I couldn't find no one to drive me
If your eyes could cut through that black stone
Tell me would they recognize me?
For the living, time must be served
Life goes on
Cigarettes and a bottle of beer
Skin on black stone

High School pictures, paper flowers
Ribbon, red as the blood
Ya, as the blood you spilled
In the Central Highlands mud
Now the limousines rush down Pennsylvania Boulevard
As the rain falls
And apology and forgiveness have no place here at all



Langue: italien

Versione italiana di Riccardo Venturi
(2003, dalla raccolta primitiva delle CCG)
IL MURO

Sigarette e una bottiglia di birra,
questa poesia che ho scritto per te
questa nera lapide e queste dure lacrime
sono tutto quel che mi resta di te ora
ti ricordo ridere con la tua divisa da marine
ridere probabilmente della tua partenza
leggo che Robert McNamara dice che gli dispiace

Tu, i tuoi stivali e la tua maglietta nera
oh, Billy, sembravi davvero cattivo
già, tu e il tuo gruppo rock eravate il meglio
che questa città di merda abbia mai avuto
ora quello che t'ha messo lì
porta a mangiare la sua famigliola in ristoranti di lusso
qui non c'è nessun posto per scuse e perdono
qui, al Muro

Scusami, non sono potuto venire da te l'anno scorso
non ho trovato nessuno che mi portasse
se i tuoi occhi potessero passare attraverso questa pietra nera
dimmi, mi riconoscerebbero?
Per tirare avanti ci vuole tempo
la vita continua
sigarette e una bottiglia di birra
pelle sulla pietra nera

Foto del liceo, fiori di carta
del nastro rosso come il sangue
già, come il sangue che hai versato
nel fango degli Altipiani Centrali
ora le limousines scorrono giù per il Pennsylvania Boulevard
mentre cade la pioggia
e qui non c'è nessun posto per scuse e perdono.



Langue: anglais

La versione incisa nel nuovo album "High Hopes"
da Springsteen Lyrics
High Hopes
THE WALL

Cigarettes and a bottle of beer,
this poem that I wrote for you
This black stone and these hard tears,
they are all I got left now of you
I remember you in your Marine uniform laughing,
laughing at your shipping out party
I read Robert McNamara says he's sorry

You're high boots and strap t-shirt,
ah, Billy you looked so bad
Yeah you and your rock and roll band,
it was the best thing this shit town ever had
Now the men that put you here
eat with their families in rich dining halls
And apology and forgiveness got no place here at all,
here at the wall

Well I'm sorry I missed you last year,
I couldn't find no one to drive me
If your eyes could cut through that black stone,
tell me would they recognize me
For the living time that must be served
as the day goes on
Cigarettes and a bottle of beer,
skin on black stone

On the ground dog tags and wreaths of flowers,
with the ribbons red as the blood
Red as the blood you spilled
in the Central Highlands mud
Limousines rush down Pennsylvania Avenue,
rustling the leaves as they fall
And apology and forgiveness got no place here at all,
here at the wall

8/1/2014 - 15:04




Langue: hongrois

Versione ungherese, da brucespringsteen.hu
A FAL

Cigaretta és egy üveg sör
Ezt a verset érted írtam
Ez a fekete kõ és ezek a nehéz könnyek
Minden, ami nekem maradt most belõled
Emlékszem rád
ahogy a Tengerész egyenruhádban nevettél
Talán épp azon, hogy kihajózol
Olvasom, hogy Robert McNamara elnézését kéri

Te és a csizmád és a fekete pólód
Oh, Billy, olyan rosszul néztél ki
Igen, te és a rock and roll bandád
Voltatok a legjobb dolog
ebben a rohadt városban
Az ember, aki ideállít téged
Õ a családját bõséges ebédlõkben eteti
És mentegetõzésnek és megbocsátásnak itt egyáltalán nincs helye
A falnál

Sajnálom, nem találkoztunk tavaly
Nem találtam senkit, aki engem elvezet
Ha a szemeid át tudnák vágni azt a fekete követ
Mondd, felismernének engem?
Az élethez szolgálni kell az idõt
Az élet megy tovább
Cigaretta és egy üveg sör
Bõr, fekete kövön

Gimnáziumi fotók, papir virágok
Szalag, ami vörös, mint a vér
Igen, mint a vér, ami belõled folyt
A Central Highlands mocsárban
Most a limuzinok gurulnak
lefelé a Pennsylvania Boulevard-on
Ahogy az esõ hullik
És mentegetõzésnek és megbocsátásnak itt egyáltalán nincs helye.

envoyé par Riccardo Venturi - 17/3/2005 - 20:36


”The Wall” is something I’d played on stage a few times and remains very close to my heart. The title and idea were Joe Grushecky’s, then the song appeared after Patti and I made a visit to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington. It was inspired by my memories of Walter Cichon. Walter was one of the great early Jersey Shore rockers, who along with his brother Ray (one of my early guitar mentors) led the ”Motifs”. The Motifs were a local rock band who were always a head above everybody else. Raw, sexy and rebellious, they were the heroes you aspired to be. But these were heroes you could touch, speak to, and go to with your musical inquiries. Cool, but always accessible, they were an inspiration to me, and many young working musicians in 1960′s central New Jersey. Though my character in “The Wall” is a Marine, Walter was actually in the Army, A Company, 3rd Battalion, 8th Infantry. He was the first person I ever stood in the presence of who was filled with the mystique of the true rock star. Walter went missing in action in Vietnam in March 1968. He still performs somewhat regularly in my mind, the way he stood, dressed, held the tambourine, the casual cool, the freeness. The man who by his attitude, his walk said “you can defy all this, all of what’s here, all of what you’ve been taught, taught to fear, to love and you’ll still be alright.” His was a terrible loss to us, his loved ones and the local music scene. I still miss him.



Bruce on 'High Hopes'

26/11/2013 - 15:51


"A promising rock 'n' roll voice was silenced in Vietnam"


Published in the Asbury Park Press
By JEAN MIKLE, STAFF WRITER

He was a quiet, soft-spoken guy who wore dark clothes and pointy-toe boots, and had shoulder-length hair before it was in fashion.
He liked listening to The Animals, The Kinks and The Rolling Stones, but never tried to be a guitar god. Instead, the only instrument he really played was a tambourine. When he got up on stage and began to sing, people saw something special in Walter Cichon.

"He wasn't just a singer, he was a front man. He was a character, a personality," said "Stormin' "Norman Seldin. "This guy had a magnetism about him." Cichon was the lead singer for The Motifs, the Shore-area's first "hot" rock 'n' roll band. His older brother, Raymond, was the lead guitar player, and Seldin was the group's teen-age manager.

In 1967, the future looked bright for the band. They had work every weekend, a regional hit song and a dynamic front man. But that fall, Walter Cichon was drafted. He joined Company A, 3rd Battalion of the Army's 8th Infantry. And having completed his training, Staff Sgt. Walter Cichon volunteered to go to Vietnam. "He felt the kids going over there were so young," said Walter's mother, Helen. "He was a little older, and he thought maybe he could help the younger soldiers."

Cichon was 21 when he volunteered to go to Vietnam. He was 22 when he died, on March 30, 1968, when he was hit in the head by an enemy bullet while in action in Kantom, then-South Vietnam. "Walter, so the story goes, came up from a trench with a hand grenade in his hand, and was shot right in the head," said Vinnie Roslin, the group's bass player. An Army buddy told Helen that he held the mortally wounded Walter in his arms until the rest of the unit was forced to retreat under heavy enemy fire. Walter and about 10 other dead or wounded soldiers were left behind. When the other members of Walter's unit returned to the area, the bodies had been cut to pieces, Helen Cichon said. Because the bodies could not be identified, Cichon was at first declared missing in action and presumed dead.
It was not until November 1974 that the Army officially declared him dead. His mother knew all along. "When they first came to the house, I knew right away," she said. "I don't know why, but I knew he wasn't coming back." Several days after Walter was shot, his mother received his last letter from Vietnam, dated March 29, 1968. In the letter, his mother said Walter describes how green his young troops are.
"He said the young soldiers didn't know what they were doing, that they really weren't very well prepared," Helen said. But he closed the letter as he always did, telling her not to worry. "He always said that. He was such a considerate boy."
In July 1975, the Army paid for Walter Cichon's funeral. A white memorial marker was placed at Evergreen Cemetery in Farmingdale, and taps was played by a unit from Fort Dix. Walter was given a memorial marker, not a gravestone, because his remains were never recovered.
Walter received two Purple Hearts, including one with an Oak Leaf Cluster. Black and white photographs of the funeral show Helen; Walter's older brother, Raymond; and his younger sister, Ann, standing by a stark white marker decorated with flowers. But Walter's father, the senior Walter Cichon, was not there.
He died in 1969, a year to the day after his son's death. "My husband went a little crazy after Walter died," Helen said. "He was drinking so heavily. He never really recovered from it."

'Bad boys' of Shore rock
In a scrapbook kept in the basement of her home in Lakewood, Helen Cichon preserves memories of a happier time, more than 30 years ago, when The Motifs and their "bad boy" image made them the leading band at the Shore.
Bruce Springsteen himself referred to Cichon as "the best front man in New Jersey at the time," in an interview he gave earlier this year to Mojo, a British music magazine.
The Motifs started in Howell, where the Cichon boys had moved when Walter was 13. By the mid-'60s, the band, which first played gigs only in the western Monmouth area, had extended its range and become the biggest band at the Shore. They often earned $125 or more for gigs at teen clubs and high school dances. The Castiles, Bruce Springsteen's first band, earned $75 a night. The Motifs played for 1,000 people at the West End Casino in Long Branch, and opened for The Duprees at the Keyport-Matawan Rollerdome. They even had a regional hit: The single "Molly," produced by Seldin, sold more than 2,000 copies, and garnered some airplay on WMCA in New York.
"Molly," described by Seldin as a "talking, moaning type of thing with a cow bell," earned praise at the time from WMCA disc jockey Joe O'Brien, who said The Motifs had "a new, original sound that's strictly their own."
"We were the bad boys," said Roslin, the bass player, who auditioned for The Motifs after crashing a Lakewood party to see the band play. "Our hair was a little longer than the other guys, and we liked the Stones more than The Beatles. Walter really had that bad boy look down."
Walter's mother said the band rehearsed at the family home or in the back yard. "I'd make them cookies," she said. "They'd say, 'When are we going to eat, Mom?' They always called me Mom." Sometimes, as a special treat, she'd make home-made pierogies. "Vinnie (Roslin) really liked those,"
Helen said. "We all got along real well," Roslin said of his former band-mates. "In those days, the bands were like family. We all stuck together."
Occasionally, a young guitar player from Freehold, Bruce Springsteen, would stop by the Cichons' house to jam with the band. Raymond had helped teach him how to play guitar. "He always would grab one or two cookies on the way out," Helen said. In those practice sessions, Walter developed his own singing style. While Raymond imitated other vocalists, Walter had a unique way of singing, Helen said. "Walter was always ahead of his time," she said. "The way he dressed, the way he spoke, and with his singing."

'A brilliant kind of guy'
Seldin described Cichon on stage as a combination of Eric Burdon and Mick Jagger. "He was very muscular. He looked like he could rumble," Seldin said. "But he also had a high I.Q. He was really a brilliant kind of guy."

When Walter graduated from Freehold High School in June 1963, a teacher told his mother that he had the ability to do anything he wanted. "You could ask Walter anything about anybody or anything, and he would know it," Helen said. "He used to read a book a week." Despite his brains, Walter chose not to go to college. "He said, 'You need the money, Mom; I'm not going to go to college,' " Helen said. Instead, Cichon had begun work as a printer's apprentice shortly before he was drafted, hoping to eventually learn the printing trade.
Walter was drafted on the same day as another member of The Motifs, rhythm guitarist Murray Bauer, who survived the war. Walter's younger brother, Michael, was also drafted at the same time, but he was sent to Korea instead of Vietnam.

After Walter and Murray were drafted, The Motifs were not the same. "He (Walter) was the band, he was the front man," Seldin said. "As a group, they were very, very good. With him up front, they were extra special."
Seldin still wonders what might have happened if Walter had not gone to Vietnam. "That band was the most unique band the Shore ever had," he said. "Were he to (have) come back, there is no telling what might have happened."
Roslin eventually left the band to join Springsteen in Child, which became Steel Mill, the Boss' most famous pre-E Street outfit. Roslin drifted back to The Motifs a couple of times, as personnel changed and styles shifted.
The group even went through a disco phase in the late '70s, before finally disbanding for good. Raymond Cichon stayed with the group for a while after his brother went to war. Walter's older brother became a salesman for a Freehold food service, but in 1980 he died at his mother's house, several days after telling her and other friends that he had been beaten up. No charges were ever brought in the case.
In her tidy Lakewood home, Helen Cichon has photographs of Raymond, Michael, Ann and her grandchildren on her fireplace mantel. But there is no photo of Walter. "They took the photo of him in uniform for the Vietnam Memorial in Holmdel," she said.
Helen, 75, volunteers at Disabled American Veterans Post 200, in Brick, and has visited the Vietnam memorials in both Washington, D.C., and Holmdel. "I do what I can for the ones who came back," she said. She said she feels no bitterness about Walter's death, but still wonders why he had to go to war. "It was rough for those kids," Helen said. "Such a useless war. . . . It's a shame."
Source: Asbury Park Press

Published: May 30, 1999 - See more at: vvmf.org

Bernart - 26/11/2013 - 17:38


Aaah! Avete copiato da qui , per un attimo ho pensato che Bruce Springsteen avesse scritto alle ccg.

Alberto - 26/11/2013 - 23:39


Tutto quello che ci rimane di Walter Cichon e dei suoi Motifs: If I Gave You Love, 1966.

Di lì ad un paio d'anni Walter Cichon, promettente rocker e front man, sarebbe stato ucciso in Vietnam... Come spiega l'articolo qui sopra, fu ammazzato insieme ad altri suoi compagni in una furiosa battaglia, colpito (per fortuna) da un proiettile in testa... Ma, siccome la ritirata americana fu molto precipitosa, morti e feriti furono abbandonati e, quando tornarono per riprenderli, trovarono i loro corpi completamente smembrati dai vietcong. Allora i comandi militari, piuttosto che raccontare come erano andate davvero le cose, preferirono far credere alla famiglia che Walter non fosse mai stato ritrovato, "missing in action"... La US Army ammise la morte di Walter solo nel 1974 ed i suoi funerali furono celebrati l'anno successivo...
Un istante per morire ammazzato e 7 anni per avere degna sepoltura...

Bernart - 26/11/2013 - 23:45


E se anche fosse? Alle CCG/AWS hanno già scritto Kris Kristofferson e parecchi altri autori...

Bernart - 26/11/2013 - 23:47




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